Received: from listserv.uta.edu (listserv.uta.edu [129.107.56.103]) by mail2.texas.net (8.8.8/2.4) with ESMTP id GAA15239 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:53:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv (129.107.56.103) by listserv.uta.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.F2D50A10@listserv.uta.edu>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 6:53:57 -0600 Received: from LISTSERV.UTA.EDU by LISTSERV.UTA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 215052 for DICKNSON@LISTSERV.UTA.EDU; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:53:56 -0600 Received: from utarlg.uta.edu (129.107.56.16) by listserv.uta.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.F2657F60@listserv.uta.edu>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 6:53:56 -0600 Received: from UTARLG.UTA.EDU by UTARLG.UTA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #18538) id <01IV4333XNCW8WXVR8@UTARLG.UTA.EDU> for DICKNSON@listserv.uta.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:53:54 CST MIME-version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:53:54 -0600 Reply-To: Emily Dickinson Discussion List Sender: Emily Dickinson Discussion List From: Tim Morris Subject: Re: Poem 341 To: DICKNSON@LISTSERV.UTA.EDU Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: 2712f557b5ac008ebc997e5b27ff2b6c ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:23:41 -0500 (EST) From: LouisFors To: DICKNSON@LISTSERV.UTA.EDU Subject: Re: Poem 341 In a message dated 98-03-25 17:23:15 EST,Amit wrote : > I really do not think this is a poem about pain and suffering. She > seems to be describing a stage one reaches after having suffered a great > deal. This is evident from the first line as well as the last stanza > (where she gives the three stages in metaphor comparing it with freezing). > I do not see any description of everyday life here. She emphasises the > senses as being dead (tombs). Feet walking along A WOODEN WAY, without any > regard to where they are going. This is what I would say she means by > Quartz contentment too, a sort of adaptation..again devoid of any feeling > like a stone. Hope I am not really off the point.. > > bye > > Amit I think you define pain too narrowly, Amit. Pain can include physical pain, loss of a loved one, or emotional trauma of various kinds. And I don't think there is good reason to dismiss Dickinson's use of the word "pain" in her first line. Yes, the poem is about the aftermath of suffering a great deal as you point out. But suffering a great deal, for whatever reason, means one has been in pain of some kind. Those aftermaths can include the feelings you note. Cheers, Louis Forsdale