From: LouisFors <LouisFors@aol.com>
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:57:48 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-28 16:37:12 EST, you write:

> Subj:	 Re: ED:  Universally admired today?
>  Date:	98-03-28 16:37:12 EST
>  From:	tanter@econs.umass.edu (tanter)
>  Sender:	owner-emweb@fmgmt.mgmt.utoronto.ca
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>  
>  At 03:30 PM 3/28/98 -0500, Marcy responded to Louis's question.

Yes, Marcy, your comment is very helpful.  I probably am asking the wrong
question, but I think you got my drift.  So, merci from the high, dry, and
pollen-filled (allergies are ghastly) deserts of the great Southwest.  

Louis Forsdale


>  >But it's not a rhetorical question, Jinpeng.  I'm really curious.  I guess
> I
>  >assume that somewhere there may be pockets of criticism that challenge
ED's
>  >place.  If ED is universally accepted as a great poet by American
scholars,
>  >then is the same true of, say, European scholars, or Asian scholars?  I 
> admit
>  >that it may be a naive question, but it's genuine.
>  
>  
>  Maybe you're asking the wrong question, Louis.  I think it is univerally
>  acknowledged that she's not the worst poet and I think most people who
>  appreciate poetry, scholar and non-scholar, would say that she has her
>  moments of greatness. (she certainly isn't great all the time!)  That said,
>  in Britain, for example, she's not a great priority in university English
>  depts.  My brother-in-law went through an American lit degree and barely
>  read any ED (they used the Norton anthology and that's it), we had a PhD
>  student on here a year or so ago who was at the University of Leeds and was
>  frustrated because none of her profs knew much about ED.  There is a woman
>  at the University of East Anglia whose published a book on ED, Helen
>  McNeil, and I don't know of another ED scholar over there, tho' I assume
>  there must be some (I'd actually like to know about them, if any are
>  listening!).  Students in secondary school get some ED occasionally but not
>  always.  In Australia, there are almost no people who work on ED--my friend
>  Joan Kirkby is the only one I know of plus Lori Lebow who's doing a PhD,
>  and then we have a few men from Oz who are on emweb but I think they're
>  grad students too?? (Andrew?? correct me, please!).  Jinpeng teaches in
>  China and we know how he hates ED (ha ha) but she is widely prized in
>  Japan, where she has a big following.  I don't know of anyone in India or
>  the former USSR or Africa.  I'm sure the more senior scholars here know
>  many more people than I do.
>  
>  Is that helpful?
>  
>  Marcy
>  
>  
>